Brooks Laich is opening up about he and wife Julianne Hough’s decision to go through in vitro fertilization in hopes of changing the shame often associated with the process.

The professional hockey player, 35, and the actress wed in July of 2017 in Idaho, Us Weekly reports. Now, they’re hoping to expand their family.

Laich told Us:

“My wife and I want to have children in our future, and going through IVF was a decision we made to increase the [odds] of that happening. I wish people would perceive it [that way instead of with] shame or guilt.”

He is tackling this topic and more with his co-host Gavin DeGraw on their iHeartRadio “How Men Think” podcast.

The athlete explained:

“We want to … attack things that are stereotyped or deemed sensitive or hush-hush.”

In the latest episode of the podcast released on June 16, Laich opened up about what the IVF experience was like for him as a man.

For instance, he said :

“For anybody out there that is considering it, it’s a lot. I will say that. As a husband, you’re just in full support mode of your wife.”

During the episode, the hosts and their guests also discussed why they thought people were so secretive about experiences like IVF. Furthermore, Laich spoke on why he could see people wanting to keep it private.

He said:

“It’s very emotional. I mean you’re trying to bring a life into this world … It was very difficult on my wife, as well … She just turned 30 last year. She has endometriosis, which could complicate pregnancy. It doesn’t mean it will, but it could. And so the smarter thing for us to do is let’s freeze some of her eggs. And if we need this as a back up plan in two years or a year from now, whenever we want to start having kids and maybe we can’t, we have a back up plan.”

According to Mayo Clinic,  endometriosis is often “a painful disorder in which tissue that normally lines the inside of your uterus — the endometrium — grows outside your uterus.” Those with the disorder often experience menstrual cramps far worse than normal.

Additionally, Mayo Clinic lists impaired fertility as the main complication associated with endometriosis.

The site states:

Approximately one-third to one-half of women with endometriosis have difficulty getting pregnant.

Laich and his co-hosts agreed that people should be more willing to talk about their fertility experiences and issues. In doing that, it lets others know that they aren’t alone.

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